諸位貴賓在 中國漢傳密學研究院第三屆學術研討會開幕聖典

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中國漢傳密學研究院第三屆學術研討會開幕聖典

 

觀看關於南天極地大雷音寺

初步規劃的錄像後發表的意見

 

2011年7月16日

中國漢傳密學研究院教學大樓一樓

 

Honourable Alderman Damon Thomas［達蒙‧托馬斯］

 

王師尊，需要有人帶頭［發言］的。

Well, someone has to start, Master Wang. 

 

當您把這個果實帶來，我們會很自豪地接受這個在我們的團體，我們的社會之中的美好的機構。

When you bring this fruition, we will be very proud to accept such a wonderful institution within our fabric, our society. 

 

看起來祂很高大，也很色彩繽紛。我認為祂將會成為來自世界各地和本地的人們來探訪的燈塔。

It looks very tall, and very colourful, and I think that it will become a beacon for people from internationally and locally to come to.

 

而金剛永明長老，您還未告訴我們祂位於哪裡？看來，祂不再是在佛臨道的了。

And you haven’t told us Tony where it is? It looks like it’s not in Collins Street anymore.

 

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Honourable副市長Helen Burnet［海倫‧伯內特］

 

感謝您，　王師尊，謝謝您。

Thank you Master Wang, thank you.

 

我很高與來到這裡，我也希望感謝您的客人──來自斯里蘭卡的秘書長。歡迎來到塔州。

It’s always a pleasure to be here, I’d like to also acknowledge your guests from Sri Lanka, the Secretary General.  Welcome to Tasmania.

 

長老們和廣大的佛教社團、貴賓們：

To the Elders and to the broader Buddhist community, special guests,

 

這是一個非常令人興奮的計劃，有可能是給予我們塔州的精神救贖。很顯然，那不僅僅是在經濟上對社會的非常慷慨的捐贈；我想， Tea Tree有這樣重要和獨特的新［建設］，是非常好的。

It is a very exciting project which maybe something for our spiritual salvation in Tasmania.  There is that very generous donation not only to the community on a financial level obviously, and would be very good for Tea Tree, I think, to have such an important and unique addition to that area of Tasmania.

 

不過，在靈性的層面上，祂把一個不同的成份帶給塔州社團。我之前沒有機會發言，其實，有［佛教］社團和研究院在這裡，是非常好的。

But it’s also on that spiritual level that it brings such a different element to the Tasmanian community.  I didn’t get a chance to say before, but it is very good to have the community and the academy here.

 

而從秘書長那裡所聽到的，好像肯定有更多將會發生。對於建議的大學，這必然是讓我們成為一個〝齊全裝備〞的城市的大好機會，令我們可以帶來很多的學術。而當然，您們今天的研討會帶來了分享意見和學習的機會。

And from the secretary general, it sounds like there is certainly more to come and certainly with the proposed university, certainly that real chance for us to be a cap and gown town, so that we bring a lot of learning and of course this is your symposium today that chance to share ideas to learn.

 

我很喜歡這個評價：“在澳洲，我們全部都是佛教徒。”我想，塔州不僅僅在本地的層面上，而且，還有在國際層面上，都可以作出很大的貢獻。而當然，其他的社團來到塔州旅遊也可以帶來很多。

 And I did like the comment that we are all Buddhists in Australia.  I think that there is so much not only on the local level but internationally that Tasmanian can bring and of course the community can bring to Tasmania when they do come to visit.

 

所以，謝謝您和祝您們今天的研討會順利。

So thank you and all the best for your symposium today.

 

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巴海教代表Honourable Sohale Aflatooni

 

我只是想談談幾點意見。作為一個巴哈學習中心的建築師和計劃經理，我想與大家分享我在過去十年以來的一些體驗。

I just like to make a few comments.  As an architect and project manager for the Baha’i Centre of Learning, I might like to share with you just a few of my experience in the last ten years that I have been involved.

 

大家都知道，在商業的規劃中，結果是非常重要的。其結果就是盡快完成計劃，令商業回報以租金或其他的金錢回報的形式出現。

You know, in a commercial project, the outcome is very important.   The outcome is to get the project finished as quick as possible so that the commercial return comes back in a form of rental or financial returns.

 

在非商業或靈性的規劃中，過程與結果是同樣地重要的。事實上，過程也可以被看成是結果，如果您喜歡的話。而其中的學習、合作、犧牲…

In a non commercial project or a spiritual project, the process is as important as the outcome.  In fact the process can be considered as outcome if you like.  And the learning that goes into it, the cooperation, the sacrifices...

 

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把人們團結在一起，嘗試理解那文化和與有可能需要幾年時間的工程中的新的文化、新的材料一起工作。這本身與商業建築的成果的價值無異。

The bringing people together and try to understand the culture and working with the new culture, new materials, everything that is involved in that process which may take several years.  That, for itself, has the same value as the outcome of the commercial building.

 

所以，這個計劃的管理越是耐心，越是智慧，結果就會越好。

So the more patiently and wisely this process is managed, the better the outcome will be.

 

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Honourable Elise Archer MP［埃莉斯‧阿徹］

 

謝謝您。我為自己戴上另一頂帽子，我也擁有規劃的背景和一些本地政府的背景。當然，三年來在皞峇燈市政局，會令你認識到在道途上可能會遇到一些，讓我大膽地說，〝障礙〞吧。

Thank you.  Putting on another hat of mine I have also got the shadow portfolio of planning and having some local government background.  Of course three years in Hobart City Council you do realise that there are some dare I say obstacles that might appear on the way.

 

而我覺得Aflatooni先生所講的是很智慧的。我覺得，經歷那個過程，把社團集中起來，令您的規劃有社團的支持，這個結果是可以達成的。所以，更廣泛的諮詢必然會幫助所有的規劃啟程，和超越所有在過程中有可能出現的障礙。

I think going through the process and bringing in the community so that you have community support for a project I think the outcome is achievable. So that wider consultation is definitely something that helps any project to get off the ground and overcome any obstacles that might occur along the way. And I think what Mr Aflatooni said was very wise. 

 

雖然如此說，從我的政治角度看來，我希望看到那個規劃系統比我們現在的系統更快、更易，希望它距離不太遠。

But having said that, from my political stand point, I would like to see the planning system be faster and easier than the system that we currently have, and hopefully that is not too far away.

 

必然地，對於這個規劃，［成功］必然距離不太遠。

And certainly won’t be too far away for this particular project.

 

謝謝您。

Thank you.

 

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塔州大學法律教授Honourable Barry Hicks［巴里‧希克斯］

 

我必需要說，我本來決定了讀法律，成為律師，但結果我成為了一個大學的法律講師。但其實我從來沒有想過做法律講師。

Well I have to say that I decided to do law and become a solicitor originally and then subsequently I become a law lecturer.  But actually I never wanted to be one.

 

【笑】

 

我本來想成為一名建築師。

I wanted to be an architect. 

 

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我那個時候數學很差。我從來無法應付數學的，所以，我決定了那大概不是適合我。所以，我看到這樣的一個規劃，以及我曾經到過中國，又到過北京，看到中國的建築物的一些很宏偉的例子，我想，在澳洲、塔州有如此的建築物，是頗為了不起的。這是從那個角度來看。

And at that stage my maths was very poor.  I never could cope with maths, so I decided that it probably wasn’t for me.  So nevertheless when I see a project like this and also having been to China, and having been to Beijing, and having seen some of these wonderful examples of China architecture, I think it would be quite amazing really to have something like this here in Tasmania and in Australia. And that is from that perspective. 

 

但是，我也覺得祂不僅僅是結構上宏偉，而且，祂將成為一個中心，在這裡澳洲、塔州的佛教中心。而祂會由於世界上其中一個大的宗教［的存在］，把澳洲和塔州放到世界的舞台上。

But also I think it’s not just a structure, a magnificent one of that, but it’s going to be a centre, a centre for Buddhism here in Tasmania and in Australia.  And it will put Tasmania and Australia very much on the world stage for one of the great religion of the world.

 

我想，祂是一個非常、非常優良的規劃，我祝您們一切成功。謝謝您。

I think it is a very, very fine project and I wish you every success. Thank you.

 

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Honourable Tenniswood［坦尼斯‧緯］太太

 

對塔州而言，我覺得這是最令人鼓舞和令人興奮的規劃。我和Tom來到這個很特別的地方，與您們共享之際，我想，您已經創造了這個位於皞峇燈市的正中心的神奇空間。

I just think it is the most inspirational and exciting project for Tasmania.  And I think that the time that Tom and I have been coming and sharing with you in this very special place, you already created this magic space right in the centre of Hobart. 

 

而每一次我們告訴我們的朋友我們來這裡分享時，他們都說，我們可不可以和您們一起來分享？我們已經帶上了我們的家人、孩子。　王師尊，我不敢向訴我們的孫兒我們今天來，因為最小的那個說您是他的上師。

And every time we tell our friends what we come and share with you, they say can we please share with you and come? We have already brought our family, our children, I didn’t dare to tell our grand children that we were coming today Master Wang, because the youngest one says that you are his Guru.

 

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他七歲，而當我們在上次的慶典中，把Sebastian帶到這裡。那天，我們與我們的日本朋友進行和平儀規之際，他說：“我想再去見見　王師尊，祂是我的上師。”

He is seven years of age when we brought Sebastian here to your last ceremony, and he said the other day when we had our peace ceremony with our Japanese connection, “I want to go and see Master Wang again and he is my Guru.”

 

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而我想，他也為了那個慶典而要求剃頭，而他上次來到這裡，是有剃頭的。

And I think he also for that ceremony asked for his head to be shaved, and he did have his hair shaved for when he came here last time.

 

但我想，擁有更大的視野，在您期盼世界和平時把整個州都包括在內，真是驚人的。

But I think the bigger vision and involving the whole of the state in your vision for world peace is just amazing.

 

為您們所有的工作致以感謝。

Thank you for all your work.

 

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